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Might be the first time I've started a topic in the Boxing & MMA thread, but I expect this will get a little national attention over the next 2 months.     

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/floyd-mayweather-conor-mcgregor-fight-finalized-aug-26-205101486.html


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Only way anyone is gonna beat Mayweather is to knock him out...no one will ever win a decision against him
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F this fight.
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S**t show
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Early prediction (from the guy who admittedly knows the least about boxing and MMA on this board):

After 2 or 3 rounds of fairly contested boxing, but with Mayweather clearly in the lead and in control, instinct takes over and McGregor lets loose a flying, roundhouse kick that knocks Mayweather out.  McGregor gets DQ'd.  Mayweather gets the win.  But, most importantly, it sets up Mayweather/McGregor II (with Ali's daughter and Rhonda Rousey as the undercard).
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There's a Bucs home game that night, against the Browns...only preseason but since it's game 3 it will at least be more competitive and interesting than this cash grab.

It'll likely be one-sided...but I can still hope that Floyd's ring rust, combined with what I hope is his inability to resist being out trash talked, will lure him into getting close enough to getting hit by a skull fracturing left and leaving the ring with his record just as shattered as his empty cranium.

Simple plan actually -- remember that Floyd has had a couple dodgy moments against lefties. And there's zero film on Conor as just a boxer. Floyd always does as little as possible to win, just dodge and counter, and perpetual pressure can wear anyone down physically and mentally. So basically McGregor has to fight like Maidana did but for all 3 minutes every round to have a prayer. 

Maybe I can convince someone on the Bucs staff to bring a Fire Stick in and run it through the video board so we can watch after the game while cleaning up. Or roll over to Winghouse and see if it's on. 
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Simple plan actually -- remember that Floyd has had a couple dodgy moments against lefties. And there's zero film on Conor as just a boxer. Floyd always does as little as possible to win, just dodge and counter, and perpetual pressure can wear anyone down physically and mentally. So basically McGregor has to fight like Maidana did but for all 3 minutes every round to have a prayer. 
 


I really appreciate your efforts to legitimately sell anyone on McGregor having any chance, much less thinking he can strategize like a boxer who's honed his craft for much of his lifetime (Maidana).

He will swing like a fool and Floyd is a smart enough business man to know that the heavily pro-McGregor crowd needs something to cheer about will back to the ropes and let Conor swing...do a little rope-a-dope...McGregor will gas within two rounds and Floyd will toy with him for a round or two until it gets stopped on McGregor quits on his still.

Floyd probably has some sort of a LARGE money guarantee McGregor won't pull any martial arts tactics on him so sure Conor could kick him in the face and lose like 75% of his purse. He appears to be a smart business man as well so he isn't going to do that. 

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I really appreciate your efforts to legitimately sell anyone on McGregor having any chance, much less thinking he can strategize like a boxer who's honed his craft for much of his lifetime (Maidana).

He will swing like a fool and Floyd is a smart enough business man to know that the heavily pro-McGregor crowd needs something to cheer about will back to the ropes and let Conor swing...do a little rope-a-dope...McGregor will gas within two rounds and Floyd will toy with him for a round or two until it gets stopped on McGregor quits on his still.

Floyd probably has some sort of a LARGE money guarantee McGregor won't pull any martial arts tactics on him so sure Conor could kick him in the face and lose like 75% of his purse. He appears to be a smart business man as well so he isn't going to do that. 



I've got Mcgregor. I BELIEVE in the great one!
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I've got Mcgregor. I BELIEVE in the great one!


Name your price...Make it light on yourself [smile]
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There's a Bucs home game that night, against the Browns...only preseason but since it's game 3 it will at least be more competitive and interesting than this cash grab.

It'll likely be one-sided...but I can still hope that Floyd's ring rust, combined with what I hope is his inability to resist being out trash talked, will lure him into getting close enough to getting hit by a skull fracturing left and leaving the ring with his record just as shattered as his empty cranium.

Simple plan actually -- remember that Floyd has had a couple dodgy moments against lefties. And there's zero film on Conor as just a boxer. Floyd always does as little as possible to win, just dodge and counter, and perpetual pressure can wear anyone down physically and mentally. So basically McGregor has to fight like Maidana did but for all 3 minutes every round to have a prayer. 

Maybe I can convince someone on the Bucs staff to bring a Fire Stick in and run it through the video board so we can watch after the game while cleaning up. Or roll over to Winghouse and see if it's on. 


Ed... you let your dislike for Mayweather blind you into making up fairytales in your head... You should have just stopped here:

"It'll likely be one-sided..."


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I've got Mcgregor. I BELIEVE in the great one!


They made a movei about this... its called the great white hype.
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Who was that guy that knocked the invincible Mike Tyson out?
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And what about Balboa beating Creed in Rocky II?   [biggrin]
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Who was that guy that knocked the invincible Mike Tyson out?


James "Buster" Douglas. A boxer with an amateur career and 10-year professional fight career before facing Mike Tyson. 

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Ed... you let your dislike for Mayweather blind you into making up fairytales in your head... You should have just stopped here:

"It'll likely be one-sided..."




He should have omitted the word "likely". Like saying Usain Bolt would likely beat me in a race. 

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Early odds article:

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/early-odds-heavily-favor-mayweather-mcgregor-bout-193746276.html


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I'm going w/ Mcgregor since you cowards are afraid to.
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VSM, Peezy...quit fooling yourself here. Pay attention while I give you logical reasons why the Irishman has a chance.

This is boxing. It's a one-on-one sport. (At least in theory...refs and judges complicate things on that end.) Anytime a guy has at least one working fist, he's got a chance. Infinitesimal, perhaps, but a chance. And this kid apparently packs an insane amount of power in his punches. You get hit with a shot that packs hundreds of pounds of force, it don't matter how tough you are, the nervous system short circuits and you wake up a minute or two later wondering WTF happened. It's like pre-surgery anesthesia...one second you're talking about how bright the room is, the next you wake up and ask if they're done.

I've been alive way longer than both of you and have forgotten more fights than you'll ever see. And a lot of them ended with the underdog winning. You're talking about my dislike of Mayweather getting the best of me -- your blind faith in his perpetual evasiveness lasting into perpetuity is likely doing the same. All things end eventually in life, including life itself, and his strategy of dodging the other guy's shots as a paradigm for victory may or may not continue.

Moreover, Mayweather is giving up an inch in height, two inches in reach, and 12 years in age. I don't buy for a fraction of a second that McGregor is going to get tired. If he gets weary of anything, it'll be the backwards mambo that Floyd does pretty much every fight. He ain't knocking out McGregor. Floyd has brittle fists anyway. Best punch he's thrown in the last decade plus was against Ortiz, whose defense was down.

And if this fight is such a s**t show, and Floyd doesn't need the money, then why the hell is he taking it? My theory is that his reach exceeded his grasp, metaphorically speaking, and he's been told to either earn more money or go broke the way he p!sses away $$$. Sporting events generally don't go well for guys facing financial issues.

Finally, never believe in the invincibility or infallibility of anything or anyone. The last election and last Super Bowl should've provided you with Exhibit A and 1A on that, let alone Tyson losing to Douglas or the US Olympic hockey team winning gold in 1980. It happens rarely, but when it does...everyone gets all freaked out, because they never considered the chance that they were wrong.

I know I could be wrong. Am often, in fact. But you guys must not have hit 40 yet, because the rest of us who have are generally like wtf, how come that sprain that used to heal in a couple days takes 3 weeks now. 
And whatever great shape Floyd Mayweather is or isn't in, no one outruns Father Time, and the more you try the greater the chance you'll eventually get caught by that black-caped MF. Human beings always find a way to screw up and stay too long at the dance.

I suspect the likely outcome is that Mayweather wins by UD, but McGregor looks better than anyone gave him credit for. And they both go home about $100 million richer. Only loser in this is the guy who pays the PPV fee.

(BTW, the Sky Sports 1 feed is ace for boxing...just saying)
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This will be a yawner. As Corey said, McGregor will come out swinging for the fences and gas himself while Mayweather's footwork avoids the barrages. He'll outpoint him. I doubt he will knock him out. Floyd isn't going to risk going inside like that. He will pitter patter him to death. McGregor will laude Floyd's boxing skills but say he was scared to mix it up with him.

I want to see the rematch in the MMA arena.
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Corey & Joe Et al. where you watching this one at? The new spot perhaps
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It's still over 2 months away. We have time to discuss. Maybe even time for PEEZY28 to get a hall pass?????
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Any MMA guy can be a boxer but not all boxers can do MMA.
Just like any MC can be a rapper but not all rappers can be MC's.....
I'm goin' with MC Connor
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Unless McGregor knocks him out Mayweather will dabce and duck his way to a UD, He's certainly knot gonna punch his way to win.
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I'm outrunning Father Time I'd like to add. Is MARDUK the only guy that will stand with Yoda on this one? I'm going with the white Ali..... We can throw some beer on this match if y'all want


Yes. Connor has ZERO chance to win. If this was MMA, it would be the other way around. Floyd is smart enough to keep his distance and get enough points for the victory. That's all he ever cares about.

I'm not a Floyd fan. He's not an exciting fighter. In my opinion, he doesn't hold a candle to the fighters from the Sugar Ray Leonard era. Mayweather loses to Sugary Ray, Duran, Hearns, Hagler, and a few others.
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Who was that guy that knocked the invincible Mike Tyson out?


he was a boxer... an actual boxer with a good job and a prior career in boxing... Next try.
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I'm going w/ Mcgregor since you cowards are afraid to.


Not afraid too.... its just like believing I can step in the ring right now and take out a Klitscko... Just as much fairytale.
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Put yours money where mouth is... any of you who legit think the Irish man has any seed of chance bet it up.

Hell we don't even have to bet on who wins.  I say The phony will not win 2 rounds.

If you truly believe in this great white hype let it be known and bet me up.

If no one takes me up on this I will assume your all offering lip service and don't even believe the words that are coming out of your mouth.
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It's not a matter of who I "think" will win.  It's who I WANT to win.  I strongly--strongly root for the man against this prick.  He's great for MMA---maybe not boxing.  

I'm not a Mayweather fan AT ALL.  If Mayweather was white would it matter?  No.  I don't like the way he fights and if that means that I deserve the "you don't know what boxing really is..." so be it.  He fights like a wussy.  I hope he gets knocked the f*** out.  
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It's not a matter of who I "think" will win.  It's who I WANT to win.  I strongly--strongly root for the man against this prick.  He's great for MMA---maybe not boxing.  

I'm not a Mayweather fan AT ALL.  If Mayweather was white would it matter?  No.  I don't like the way he fights and if that means that I deserve the "you don't know what boxing really is..." so be it.  He fights like a wussy.  I hope he gets knocked the f*** out.  


Don't you just hate it when Yoda dances around the issues instead of just coming out and letting us know what he really thinks?    [wink]
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VSM, Peezy...quit fooling yourself here. Pay attention while I give you logical reasons why the Irishman has a chance.



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It's not a matter of who I "think" will win.  It's who I WANT to win.  I strongly--strongly root for the man against this prick.  He's great for MMA---maybe not boxing.  

I'm not a Mayweather fan AT ALL.  If Mayweather was white would it matter?  No.  I don't like the way he fights and if that means that I deserve the "you don't know what boxing really is..." so be it.  He fights like a wussy.  I hope he gets knocked the f*** out.  


Yeah... You really don't though man... 

See I am not a man that roots for lost causes.  Its stressing... You know your going to lose why even put energy into it.

You might as well as bet on Leto to Beat Plant this year they have a better chance than Connor beating any top 50 140 to 154lb boxer.
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See--I am a man that does root for the underdawg. How many times were we the underdawg back in the day before we had to prove to you mickifickis that we could play a lil' bit? It's not even an underdawg thing. I simply f*****g don't like Mayweather--I hope he loses every comeback money hungry feed-my-posse boxing match he goes for. Its no different than the dudes that hate on the Pats....I just don't like that guy on any level
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See--I am a man that does root for the underdawg. How many times were we the underdawg back in the day before we had to prove to you mickifickis that we could play a lil' bit? It's not even an underdawg thing. I simply f*****g don't like Mayweather--I hope he loses every comeback money hungry feed-my-posse boxing match he goes for. Its no different than the dudes that hate on the Pats....I just don't like that guy on any level


Generally Speaking... The best guys at their sport are the most Cocky... Jordan, Muhammed, Brady etc... 
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he was a boxer... an actual boxer with a good job and a prior career in boxing... Next try.


That absolutely NO ONE gave a shot to win...NO ONE...its not like McGregor is some bum off the street
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The other reason McGregor wont win is because it would make a mockery of boxing if he did...not many care about boxing as it is, imagine if a MMA guy walks in and beats boxing's biggest star
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That absolutely NO ONE gave a shot to win...NO ONE...its not like McGregor is some bum off the street


He's worst than a bum off the street. No one would think a bum off the street had a chance. No one should think McGregor does. Sadly people like Marduk are fanning your fires and wasting paragraphs telling you why he does, which makes me wonder if he's getting a cut on this action somewhere.

If Floyd wants to make this brutally bad, it would be on the level of Mancini-Duk Koo Kim. I don't think that will happen but it could if one party decided that's what he wanted to do, it would be done. 

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JD, just a hypothetical: have you ever dealt with a case that someone says you have zero chance of winning? And if so, did you set sail and move on or did you try harder?

Someone tells me I have zero chance at something, I double down...'cos there's no better feeling than being able to accomplish the supposedly impossible, put both fists in the air with the finger in the middle held high, and yell those two special words at the top of your lungs.

Y'all acting like this guy is Optimus Prime or something. He's a human being. And hence susceptible to that organic rust we call aging. So you're gonna get a little bit slower, year by year, unnoticeable to most but not to yourself (unless your name is Yoda or Peezy[rolleyes]).

I ain't afraid to bet, but I ain't laying money with any of you oleaginous bridge trolls on here. I'll do that in Vegas, thank you very little.

And why do I dislike Mayweather so much? Besides the fact that he is the equivalent of a football team that basically waits to intercept the ball, then hand it off to the running back every play, there's this:

http://deadspin.com/the-trouble-with-floyd-mayweather-1605217498

Hard to like a guy whose best punches land on females.
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He's worst than a bum off the street. No one would think a bum off the street had a chance. No one should think McGregor does. Sadly people like Marduk are fanning your fires and wasting paragraphs telling you why he does, which makes me wonder if he's getting a cut on this action somewhere.

If Floyd wants to make this brutally bad, it would be on the level of Mancini-Duk Koo Kim. I don't think that will happen but it could if one party decided that's what he wanted to do, it would be done. 



Now you're just hating...typical
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He's worst than a bum off the street. No one would think a bum off the street had a chance. No one should think McGregor does. Sadly people like Marduk are fanning your fires and wasting paragraphs telling you why he does, which makes me wonder if he's getting a cut on this action somewhere.

If Floyd wants to make this brutally bad, it would be on the level of Mancini-Duk Koo Kim. I don't think that will happen but it could if one party decided that's what he wanted to do, it would be done. 



Where are we meeting to watch this m*********n match?  When Connor pops that prick I wanna be there to see all y'all do shots of Yagermeister on me.  
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That absolutely NO ONE gave a shot to win...NO ONE...its not like McGregor is some bum off the street


In boxing terms he is... Buster Douglass was far from a Bum off the streets he was a world class fighter... lets not forget his dad died the night or weekend of the fight.... That was an inspired man fighting... Not some MMA kid from Ireland with a fat mouth and weak punching power.
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JD, just a hypothetical: have you ever dealt with a case that someone says you have zero chance of winning? And if so, did you set sail and move on or did you try harder?

Someone tells me I have zero chance at something, I double down...'cos there's no better feeling than being able to accomplish the supposedly impossible, put both fists in the air with the finger in the middle held high, and yell those two special words at the top of your lungs.

Y'all acting like this guy is Optimus Prime or something. He's a human being. And hence susceptible to that organic rust we call aging. So you're gonna get a little bit slower, year by year, unnoticeable to most but not to yourself (unless your name is Yoda or Peezy[rolleyes]).

I ain't afraid to bet, but I ain't laying money with any of you oleaginous bridge trolls on here. I'll do that in Vegas, thank you very little.

And why do I dislike Mayweather so much? Besides the fact that he is the equivalent of a football team that basically waits to intercept the ball, then hand it off to the running back every play, there's this:

http://deadspin.com/the-trouble-with-floyd-mayweather-1605217498

Hard to like a guy whose best punches land on females.


You know me... we don't have to bet on Money Homie.
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Where are we meeting to watch this m*********n match?  When Connor pops that prick I wanna be there to see all y'all do shots of Yagermeister on me.  


I for one would not spend a dime on this fight... I will be watching it using my Android Box on Kodi with some craft brew from my garage fridge... If anyone wants to hop across the water to see it your more than welcome but I will one not fight crowds at crowded bars or 2 pay $100 pay per view for this side show... Oh and If I am tired from that days events and just want to go to sleep at like 10 well guess.... I will be snoozing during the fight since I already know the out come... its not worth missing out on sleep or watching paint dry.

I do believe that you fellas have bought into the hype of this fight... I for one have not... Floyd Mayweather has bamboozled the lot of you into lining his pockets once again... Not me... I could careless about this side show Hulk Hogan vs Rocky Balboa fight.
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Lastly... I am not necessarily a Mayweather fan (the person) I am a fan of his craft and how it frustrates the hell out of everyone he faces.

So I could care less if he won or lost... But I know boxing... and Berto is going to end up being a tougher fight for him than this one.
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My last bet was in 1995. Nebraska vs Florida I bet Nebraska and the under for THOUSANDS OF $$$ that I had won through the whole season. It was Nebraska and over...I lost the $2500 I was up. ....


LOL.[smile]

How many Gators does it take to tackle Tommie Fr...?

Oh nevermind.[rofl][rofl]
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I would have won ALOT of money that night but in a way I'm glad I didn't win. I never bet or gambled monetarily speaking since then honestly. And I literally grew up around some big time bookies. I remember Thanksgiving holidays when football was on or bowl season--listening to my uncles taking bets in. " uh yeah lemme get USC for $4500 and I'll take Michigan for $2000 and let's go with the Raiders on Sunday for $3k...."
I had no idea what was going on till later but it was crazy watching them tease the point differential and over/under based on the betting to position themselves properly. And then when they the law was on to them. I can clearly remember books being burned in the fireplace. I was around for that sh** because they were family.
So yeah I don't bet. Not my cup of tea but we can bet some beer.
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I am not a betting person at least on the $$$ kind... I only bet when its a sure fire win... Yeah and this categorizes as that.  I could use another Hunuphu tho. [biggrin]
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I am not a betting person at least on the $$$ kind... I only bet when its a sure fire win... Yeah and this categorizes as that.  I could use another Hunuphu tho. [biggrin]


I'd bring you one of those no matter what. I'm kind of over my imperial stout phase unless they're barrel aged, and then only once in a while. Plus I like them more in colder weather anyway for some reason.

Right now I've really been into hefeweizens and trippels, but that's another matter for the beer thread.

Make sure you're keeping up with the turmoil on Kodi. Some of those repositories, or whatever they're called, are being shut down. They do tend to pop up elsewhere, though.

Never classify anything as a sure fire win. I had 5 dipsh*t friends who did that for the first Tyson-Holyfield. Three fled at the end before I could collect...trying to find them afterwards was like trying to find D.B. Cooper or Amelia Earhart. Not a proportionate mismatch but similar in that we were all led to think Iron Mike was going to pound Evander's face like a veal cutlet when in fact he was not what he once was.
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If you haven't done the SpinzTV Hard Nox build for Kodi yet then you aint using it right lol
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I want to see the rematch in the MMA arena.


This will never happen. Floyd doesn't want to street fight. He doesn't like being hit. That's why he boxes and avoids it.

I think Floyd dances around him just like he did Pacquiao in a boxing ring. In a cage, McGreggor destroys him, and Mayweather knows that.
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Originally Posted by YODA MASTER
See--I am a man that does root for the underdawg. How many times were we the underdawg back in the day before we had to prove to you mickifickis that we could play a lil' bit? It's not even an underdawg thing. I simply f*****g don't like Mayweather--I hope he loses every comeback money hungry feed-my-posse boxing match he goes for. Its no different than the dudes that hate on the Pats....I just don't like that guy on any level


translation: i don't like cocky all time great winners?
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