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marduk

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Any of you folks catch this one? Good fight if you did.

Thurman came real close to landing on his rump in the 7th. Lot of guys would've fallen after all those shots but he did not.

Lopez is tougher than truck stop steak, man...just kept coming forward all night and ate a lot of shots from KT. Amazing he only went down once.

Not sure Thurman is ready to get in there and bang with guys like Spence, Crawford or even Pacquiao. But I'll give him credit for not coming back against an obvious pushover. It'll be interesting to see who he and his team can sign on to fight next.

Generally no good can come of it when boxers get hitched, at least as it pertains to in-ring matters. Maybe One Time can tap into a well of anger that's been stored away for a while, 'cos he'll need it if he fights any of the other welterweight champs.
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It was a good fight.  Lopez is no slouch.  Broner would have been an easier fight lol.  Most of the top 147s are under Haymon now including Pacquio so I think next it will be Pac Man for the money although we all want to see him Spence and Crawford go at it... a 147 Tourney like the Super 6 would be awesome but I think they did that to bring more attention to those guys where these 147 to 154s have all the attention they need right now,
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Most of the top 147s are under Haymon now


But here's my question: does that make attractive matchups between these guys easier, or harder?

I used to think it was more difficult. Because why would you want to put your stud horses against each other? Someone has to lose and that fighter then becomes less marketable.

But boxing doesn't have one unifying governing body. Sport is all about CREAM. Conventional wisdom doesn't apply. Take the fight Saturday, for example; Lopez lost but looked good in doing so, so he'll probably get another high profile fight. 

And PPV is kind of unpredictable. To say the least. Not sure if there's more money in going this route than airing a top shelf fight on ESPN, Showtime, DAZN, Fox, etc.

Haymon is pretty slick and seems to find ways to make fights happen so I suspect that if Pac-May II doesn't go down he'll attempt to get One Time and Manny in there. But then there's the matter of Crawford and Spence looking for paydays so nothing's a given.

You are right in that there's not much chance of a Super Six type tournament. Most of the top guys at 147-154 don't need this setup to get noticed and get paid. 
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Bob Arum is claiming quite loudly he didn't allow Crawford/Pac to happen while he was aligned with Pac before he didn't want to see Manny take a beating.

Of course Pac got mad and signed with Al Haymon, figuring there were PPV options there (he's right). But if I'm Crawford I'd be pissed that my promoter put the kibosh on my big payday because he felt an affinity for another fighter. 
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This doesn't surprise me. Pacquiao isn't afraid of anyone, even a younger guy like Crawford, who is like him in a lot of ways (southpaw, fast as a shark, hits like an anvil). I can imagine he'd be incensed to think he was shielded from another fighter.
Only guy who ever really threw a beating on Pacquiao that I can remember was Marquez, and he was taking some lumber across the face before he timed that bombjob of a shot at the end of the round.
Horn hit him a little bit but we all know that fight was a sham, and Morales popped him good in their first tilt, but it wasn't like either of those guys won one-sided fights. 
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't see the Arum family as major players in the game at this point. Seems like Haymon and Eddie Hearn are steering the money train these days.
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Bob Arum isn't a major player but still has the best 140-147 guy in Crawford and the best 135 guy in Lomachenko so eventually he'll be able to negotiate some fights.

But freezing Pac and Crawford out on a fight that would have been big money and possibly elevated Crawford to a major status is bad stuff for a promoter. 

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Bob Arum isn't a major player but still has the best 140-147 guy in Crawford and the best 135 guy in Lomachenko so eventually he'll be able to negotiate some fights.



Thanks for pointing this out. Having a hard time figuring out who promotes who these days since so many guys have jumped around.

Crawford is certainly in that conversation of best one in that weight area but Spence might have something to say about that. Really want to include Thurman but I wouldn't like his chances against either Spence or Crawford.

Lomachenko...same story. Both those guys (Commey, Lopez) who won on the Kovalev-Alvarez undercard are vicious. And way faster.

Of course ESPN+ had to point out that 3 of the 4 LH champs are in the Top Rank stable now (Kovalev, Gvozdyk, Beterbiev). Even though Kovalev fought a great fight on Saturday and didn't run out of gas like he did in the first Alvarez and second Ward fights, I wouldn't pick him against any of the other guys with belts. Gvozdyk just beat a guy into a coma, Beterbiev is unrelenting, and Bivol is even more patient and calculating.

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