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marduk

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If you had the Kodi working, you could've found at least one good fight. Otherwise, it was just the Linares-Campbell fight, which was not half bad and reasonably competitive. Lightweight division seldom disappoints.

Heavys had a minor alphabet belt up; fight was on YouTube(!) but you had to pay, which I did not...and I'm glad I didn't. Parker beat Fury but it was a 12 round cure for insomnia. I didn't see anything out of either one that made me think they could stand with Joshua or Wilder, but Wilder is facing a guy whose nickname is King Kong next month and he might have a tough time.

Best one by far was from the opening round of the cruiserweight Super Series. Dorticos put Kudryashov (yeah I know, never heard of either) out in the second round. Both guys are big punchers but the Cuban slugger got one off to the Russian right smack on the left ear and that was that. Found some Russian feed of this and it really didn't matter bc the fight lasted 5 minutes.

And lastly, Andre Ward called it a career...for now. I never cared for him but he really has nothing left to prove, and if he doesn't need the money why risk it. Besides, if he was worn out by 2 fights with Kovalev, he had to look at the rest of that division and see that there are at least 2 other Russians who hit just as hard if not harder (Beterbiev and Gvozdyk) and a guy who to me is easily the fastest puncher above welterweight (Storm Alvarez).

I think Ward p*ssed away like 3 of his prime years fighting with promoters but it's a young man's game and he'll do fine as a color commentator. Just not sure how in the span of a little over a month he goes from considering moving up to heavyweight to saying he's done with it all. Athletes to me are a lot like actors and musicians -- they live at least somewhat in the realm of their emotions -- so I'll believe he's truly retired when he stays that way for more than a year or two.
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"I think Ward p*ssed away like 3 of his prime years fighting with promoters"

That is about the only thing Ward related we agree on lol.

He basically said its not the fights but everything that goes into the grind of getting ready for the fight that his body could not take anymore.  Which was one reason why he considered moving all the way to Heavy but I am sure he thought that would be more detrimental to this health than anything else.

I think he stays gone.
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He doesn't seem like an impulsive guy so I would tend to agree with you. But I've seen so many guys change their minds after, like, a month -- and then they say they've had a change of heart.

It's the fact that he didn't fight continuously 2-4 times a year that makes me think ok, what's the real reason he's bailing. He's not a battle scarred 33 year old, he's more like a guy in his mid to late 20's physically. But I think he's smarter than the average palooka, doesn't live extravagantly or ostentatiously (yeah Mayweather I'm referring to you), and has probably looked at the financial and physical logistics and said I want to play with my kids and remember it tomorrow.

And I do think Floyd took the MacGregor fight not so much bc it was easy money as he knew he was gonna need more. For all he claims to have, I bet it comes in and goes right back out rather quickly. Even my accountant, who's a big boxing fan and a true New York City character, said that he thinks Mayweather is in deeper with the IRS than he is letting on, bc the timeline of his tax troubles being made public overlaps largely with his decision to fight again. And he deals with the feds quite often, as you may imagine. He believes Floyd made it worse by trying to swerve them and doing so put him in their crosshairs.

Probably pointing out the obvious here, but when you irritate an arm of the government, to quote an acquaintance who is a lawyer for the NYPD, "they will invade you".
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I mean... the fight was easy money though... He knew.... everyone knew it except for Puckett who seemingly disappeared and never mentioned the fight again on here or on Facebook after the results LMAO. 

But yeah it could have been to help pay off the IRS but I am sure he would not have just took a fight with a young up and comer or someone really dangerous to his "0"... He took the best simp for the most buck... That simp just happened to have a mouth like no other and was able to generate enough intrigue and fools to pay for the fight that Mayweather had his biggest pay day yet.

No one would have paid for May vs Manny round 2 and May would not have faced off against one of the younger guys who skillwise are a serious threat. 

As for Ward, I don't think he loves it or needs it to fulfill him.  Or so it seems.  He will continue announcing and he will be the main heel in the next Creed movie I bet which the 1st one was actually pretty awesome (check it out if you have not). 
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You must be reading that fake news amigo...IMDB has the plot of Creed 2 as Adonis Creed fights Ivan Drago to avenge his father's death (and no I am NOT making that up lol). I know Ward was in the first one for a minute, so I'd rather see Creed vs. Ward's character, bc at least they have a more believable tangential connection than we'd get with him fighting a guy who is like 60 now.

Thought MacGregor put up more of a scrap than anyone thought he would. His awkwardness threw Mayweather off for the first 3 rounds, and he managed to win one of the late ones as well. Had he possessed anything resembling half decent cardio, he could've perhaps taken a couple more and thrown the result into question. But they all got their payday and no one got hurt.

I don't buy the argument that Floyd let him have the first 3. That's a fool's errand. Floyd just found him more awkward than anything that was on tape and had a tougher time than usual in determining a pattern of movement. He would be smart to stay gone at this point bc Spence or Thurman would give him much more of a sustainable match.

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Dude.... How many times do we have to go over this.... how many Floyd fights do you have to watch to realize your seeing the carbon copy each time.

Floyd is rarely active for the 1st 3 founds in any of his fights... its his figuring out stage... He didn't "let him win rounds" as much as he was laying back checking his tendencies for later.  Its how he fights its exactly why you dont like him and why he is 50-0 without taking as much of a beating.  I am sure CM was more awkward than any other fight it still took the same amount of time for him to get in his groove. 

Funny about the Drago thing... Now I might pass.  I think Ward could eventually be apart of that movie line though.  Or this could be like one of those he goes to Kill Drago now he has to deal with the WArd character or some isht. 
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If what you are saying is that Floyd does what no other athlete, no other team does -- which is essentially spot the opponent a lead before storming back -- then, well...I got nothing. He's sui generis. No one else to the best of my knowledge has done that in any other sport, be it football, baseball, hoop, hockey, golf, tennis, curling, etc. Next time I see Yoda (tomorrow), I'm gonna ask him if Weiner's strategy has ever been to give up 2-3 TD's to figure out the other team before putting up 49 to counter.

But I don't buy it. Not for half a gunshot. Basically, if he's so slow in determining the other guy's patterns and weaknesses, then he really is as dumb as he's painted out to be and what's gotten him by is little more than raw speed. That sort of arrogance and ignorance is why we have the theory known as the Dunning-Kruger effect, in which someone is essentially too dim to know how dim they are.

And if he really is that mentally deficient, then it's no wonder the IRS has built a cabin in his back yard and will make it their mission to get many pounds of flesh. Because that's what they love to do, find people who are trying to be shady and punish them.

You gotta do better than to say his strategy is to just fiddlefart around for half the fight. He was disconcertingly torpid for the first 3 rounds against MacGregor, but he got away with it because the Irishman ran out of gas faster than my old man's '76 Buick Regal on US1 coming home from Stuart to Port St. Lucie.

It's all irrelevant now. Two of the three boxers I loathed watching are gone (Floyd, Ward) and the third (Rigondeaux) will hopefully get dispatched in a couple of months by a guy that can catch him and drill him (Lomachenko). Then we can get back to guys who fight to do damage and not provide cures for insomnia.
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"If what you are saying is that Floyd does what no other athlete, no other team does -- which is essentially spot the opponent a lead before storming back -- then, well...I got nothing. He's sui generis."

Its not spotting a lead if your still winning the rounds on the card.  I didn't say he is tanking the rounds I said less active trying to figure them out.  They still have to hit him which usually doesn't happen so he wins the rounds... (this is why you dont like his style remember.)
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Also he is 50-0... so whatever you say... his strategy is tried tested and proven.
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"Then we can get back to guys who fight to do damage and not provide cures for insomnia.

Toughman boxing ended years ago.... Boxing is a science which is why the Boxer almost always beats the puncher/brawler... Honestly the perfect boxing match for you the way you describe it would be 2 guys no rounds no judges just straight slugfest until one goes down or dies.  

I mean I used to play Tekken and Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat and even they had rounds and a scoring system.

Or maybe your just a big fan of Rocky 5..

For your enjoyment there is plenty of that to be seen on Worldstarhiphop.com. Check it out.
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It's a science, huh? I'll let my nephew know -- he's a chemistry professor at UF. Really not looking forward to his answer, though...sarcastic little liberal that he is[smile]

I'm not talking about guys who do nothing but swat wildly a la Butterbean. I'm talking about guys who know how to box but have a seek and destroy mentality -- Crawford, GGG, Canelo, Lomachenko, Inoue, Mikey Garcia, most of the fighters at light heavy and cruiser. Guys who land a punch but look to land another, then another, not back up every single time.

Even the old school box and jab guys like Ali, Holmes, Leonard would go all in to slam the door once they smelled blood. 

Mayweather will be the last guy everyone wanted to see because they loathed him and hoped in vain he'd get his comeuppance. Guys who fight like that today (Rigo, Lara) can't get on a major network fight card, unless like in El Chacal's case he's fighting a top 5 P4P guy like Lomachenko who he couldn't avoid anymore.

Technical based strategy is great...for chess. Or if you're watching a crime procedural. I am unabashed in my desire for some smash mouth action. I spend all day being cerebral to an extent and I want to be a cretin when I come home. You need balance in your life; that's how I get mine.

BTW, another good fight in the cruiser super series on Saturday, Briedis v. Perez. It's on some network called ITV Box Office (which I'm pretty sure I've seen in on of those Kodi repositories), and because it's live from Latvia (?!?) it's on at like 5 in the afternoon.
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yeah ITV is on Kodi I have it on Modbro. 
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yeah ITV is on Kodi I have it on Modbro. 


Haha, on my build (One Alliance) it's listed as Mobdro. But among all the ITV links I don't see one for an ITV Box Office.

Usually one of those links will have a fight listing on the day of, from which you can click the links and hope one works. 

I'm still trying to figure out an approximate fight time. Riga, Latvia is 7 hours ahead of us. Apparently they fall into a European time zone.
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